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The Entertainment Lawyer Who Started The Alternative w/ Henderson Cole | The J-Card Podcast

Plus, some songs that Hendo loves

Henderson “Hendo” Cole is not only the founder and managing editor of The Alternative (a long-running independent music blog), but he’s also built a career as an entertainment lawyer with some pretty impressive clients.

In this episode, we get into the stuff musicians usually learn the hard way: when an attorney actually becomes useful, what contracts can quietly shape the next 10 years of your career, and why negotiating early matters more than most people realize. We also talk about some of the behind-the-scenes of running The Alternative like the experience of launching a Patreon, managing a team of writers, and the tension between chasing views vs serving a smaller group of true diehards.

As always, we get into Hendo’s mixtape, which features songs by artists he’s worked with, plus the stories behind them, and then we play “One For The Road” to close out the show. Enjoy!

More on IG: @getalternative http://instagram.com/getalternative


The J-Card is presented by Rue Defense Tape Club, a quarterly, mail-order cassette compilation and DIY audio project. Each episode is part music discovery, part oral history, part hangout show. We ask artists, musicians, filmmakers, and other music-minded folks to build us their own personal mixtape and talk about the moments and memories that inspired it.

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⏱️ Chapters:

00:00 - Intro to Henderson & The Alternative

10:51 - Patreon and Not Selling Out

18:30 - What is Success?

21:48 - What Music Lawyers Do

24:49 - When Should Artists Hire a Lawyer?

26:57 - Two Tips for DIY Artists

29:15 - Mixtape Intro

30:16 - “Broc Ched” by Prince Daddy & The Hyena

34:15 - “the plant mouth” by Oso Oso

38:20 - “Billboard” by Wednesday

40:40 - “Boomer” by Bartees Strange

43:22 - “I Can’t Handle Change” by ROAR

49:48 - “TLC Cage Match” by MJ Lenderman

53:37 - Honorable Mentions

56:48 - Game: One For The Road

01:04:15 - Plugs & Outro

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